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国际私法会议欲定扶养义务条约国际离婚者有望跨国领取扶养费
本报讯（记者李春雁）2月9日，海牙国际私法会议作出制定国际离婚中有关扶养义务及扶养费领取方式等的条约的决定。一旦条约生效，各参加国将由政府出面协助国际离婚者领取应得的扶养费用。而日本、中国均是此国际私法会议的成员国，因而一旦条约生效，中日国际离婚者即可通过两国政府，领取应得的扶养费。
海牙国际私法会议是一个以欧洲国家为主的国际组织，但亚洲的中国、日本、韩国、新加坡、马来西亚等国都已加入，至今成员国已达60多个国家。此次关于制定国际离婚中有关扶养义务和扶养费的条约，主要针对越来越多的国际离婚中很多人离婚后回到母国，造成一些人讨要扶养费无门或讨要扶养费要跨国诉讼，手续繁琐时间过长等问题。条约成立后，各成员国将根据条约规定，由政府出面协助国际专门机构，代办各种手续，帮助受取人得到自己应得的扶养费。这样可以帮助国际离婚中领取抚养费一方保障自己的正当权益，有利于离婚后孩子的正常成长，也可防止一些人在国际离婚中逃避扶养义务。
如现在日中国际离婚中，若女方为中国人，离婚后带着孩子回到中国，如在日本的原丈夫不支付扶养费，女方只能来到日本向日本法院提起诉讼，要求对方支付扶养费。来日繁琐的手续，昂贵的旅费，及打官司所需的大量时间和费用，都是女方面临的巨大困难。若男方搬迁，地址不明，更使讨要扶养费之途难上加难。但若此条约生效后，中国女方只要在国内向政府交出相关资料，即可由中国政府转交日本政府，由日本政府专门机构代为办理各种手续，帮助中国女方追讨，中国女方不出国门，即可拿到扶养费用。
据悉，现在日中国际婚姻多到5万多对，这个条约的生效，无疑会为国际离婚者领取应得的扶养费带来便捷，为孩子的成长提供有利的生活条件。 cinta
08-03-2005, 06:40 PM
I represent my friend who is German man and he wants to divorce his wife and as his best friend I am willing to help him by find some information about this. He is in confusing situation right now.
I describe here in general his situation marriage problem.
He and her have been married for 10 years. They don't have any kids until now, but she has a daughter from her previous husband and the daugther lives with them, she is 14 years old now. His wife is Brazilian and they married in Denmark. He has his own business at home and he running his business himself. His wife works as a freelancer for any product's promotion.
The marriage problem came up after the year of 6th of marriage that he noticed it. His wife controling him all the time and always try to made any confrontation with him with excuse him that he has an affair with other girl, that definetely he doesn't. He starts suspicious that his wife has other affair after he saw himself 2 times last 2 years ago that his wife was went out from the house of his neighbour's ( a man). He already told her to stop contact with this guy, and she promised him will do it. He tried hard to keep the marriage still in harmony, but in 2004 their marriage become more worst. Their marriage always full of fighting. They didn't have a sex as husband and wife since October 2004. Even though in that situation he still willing to keep the harmony of his marriage. This problem situation effected to his business, who is running down right now.
In February 2005, he is knowing a girl by internet and they become close to each other ( well I can understand why he did it after all happenend with his unhappy marriage). He told his mother that he met other girl and he feel happy and comfort with this girl.
In Mei 2005, he found all the email of his wife to this neighbour's guy. From all those email he found that his wife actually really has affair with this man for 3 years already, beside that he also found other emails from 2 other men to his wife and they already met each other, that he assumed. He didn't noticed all those things from his wife because his trusted her, even she said she wanted to visit her friends in other city of German. He printed out all those emails and showed them to her. She totaly denied all those emails, she said that she wrote herself those emails to make him jelous because she knows oneday that he will find those emails ( is it make a sense reason, don't you think?). Beside that also he found in the telephone bills that she has a lot of calling to the same number for already 5 months, and he check out the number and it belongs to this neighbour man. She didn't realize that his wife has affair already 3 years and flirted some men.
Even in other side he feel guilty of himself and to his wife because he knew other girl, but he feel that he is just a normal man that he can not deny to attract to other girl because he feel unhappy with his relationship, especially with his wife behaviour and attitude. The fighting more became bigger and sharper and after all he feel tired in trap in this bad situation because it is really effect to his business also. She even had called his business partners and told them how bad person is her husband. So, he decided to divorce from her. He told her about this in June 2005, of course she could not accept this in the first, afterthat she accepted and busy try to find a new appartement for herself. But, she always changed her mind, today says OK, next day says NO. it can say like she has 2 personality ( I don't want to assume myself about her, but for all I heard and see, it seems like that).
Recently in the end of the week of July, his wife found some pictures of his new girl friend and their pictures together, she went into his computer. She asked him and he answered in honest that he is knowing other girl because of the problem in marriage and he feels unhappy.
She sent some those pictures to her sister who also lives in German. Now, she became more violence againts him. She called all the friends and family of him to tell them that her husband has affair. She said also that she will display all those pictures on the street in the city.
She treated him many time that she will hire someone to kill him or even she will do it herself. She also treated him that she will do anything to destroy his businness. Before she said she wants move out from the house and now she doesn't want to move out from the house.
I had read some of rules in German for divorce, but I would like to get more further information and advise from this kind of marriage problem.
The question are:
1. What he must to do to take a good way for his divorce?
2. As I read: "Normally you can start the divorce procedure in Germany, when the spouses are seperated more then one year. The separation can take place in the formal common home for some month, which counts as separation - time, but afterwards it is better to live in two different homes."
They are not separate until now, even her wife sometimes stays by her sister for couple of days. So, how and when their divorce can be start? should they separate for 1 year first than ask for divorce or he can already ask the divorce through the lawyer?
3. For the allimony, how long he must to pay for her and should he also support the daughter of his wife, even she is not her own daughter?
4.As I read also; "In Germany you divide only the properties, witch are owned while the spouses live together. The law compares the situation of each husband at the moment of marriage and the moment of seperation (divorce - petition)."
They live in the rent house since they married. How about this? Can he stays in the house and his wife who move out from the house? it doesn't matter for him to pay the rent of her new appartment. Who decide the spouses to live or to get out from the house? and when one of the spouse should be moving out after the divorce request?
"The husband, which got more properties in this time has to pay the half of this value". : what it means by this rule?
How about the credits and also his company, should he also divide it?
5. How he must to do to protect his business from his wife violence as she treated him that she wants to destroy his business. is it possible she can do that?
6. How he must to do to protect himself for any bad thing happen that his wife will do to him? He believes that she will do that because he knew well her personality and character, one time she almost do that.
7. Should both of them also attend in the court for the divorce and how long it takes the processing of the divorce until the divorce approved?
I really appreciate and look forward to receive any information and advise from you regarding this matter. Thank you so much for your kind attention and help.
Sincerely regards, :)
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NYClex
08-03-2005, 09:26 PM
I assume they live in Germany. First of all, he should consult an attorney right now. Under German law parties in a divorce must be represented by an attorney anyway, so he can already go and get representation. The attorney then will explain everything.
Basically you already found the main rules. The couple has to live separated for one year before the divorce can be decreed. What constitutes legal separation the attorney will explain to him. A couple can be separated even when living in the same home, though this is unusual. The law hopes that the couple will agree on who will move out of the house and who will stay, but if they cannot often the courts favor mother and child.
Germany basically is a community property country, all property that was acquired during the marriage will be divided between the parties, including future interests. Property that belonged to one party only before the marriage remains with that party. A party who is raising children may also be entitled to alimony.
Since the girl was not his child, he does not need to pay child support for her unless he adopted her. Her biological father has to pay child support for her.
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cinta
08-09-2005, 05:09 PM
Thank you for your information.
Yes they live in Germany. He consulted once time by attorney, he said he got only in general information.
About the separating before the divorce can be decreed, the couple has to live separated for one year, is it possible he can fill divorce less than one year separated as ' a quick divorce'?
I read that for 'a quick divorce' is possible if the continuation of the marriage would result in unreasonable hardship to the petitioner owing to factors attributable to the other spouse, which are directed against basic values of human interaction and respect, such as e.g. physical maltreatment but also other insupportable forms of misdemeanour such as
threats, severe verbal abuse, excessive use of alcohol. She is threating him many time such as: will hurt herself and tell police that he the one who did to her, she will hire someone to hurt him, she will call all his clients to tell them to stop the business with him, those threats she all the time said to him. She also said lately that she want to do anything to let him him down as her revange.
When start to counting the separation if both of them don't wanna leave the house, as you told that a couple can be separated even when living in the same home and how to manage in this way of separating in the same home?
If the wife and her child stay in the house, because as I mentioned that the house is a rent house, who should pay the rent for the house during their separating or while in divorce proceeding?
Is it true if one of the spouses leave the house for 3 days to 1 week, means that he/she is the one who wants to leave the house?
thanks again :)
One more forgot:
If in separating before one year, he has a new partner it will any effevt to the divorce proceeding?
NYClex
08-09-2005, 10:49 PM
Normally you do not get around the 1-year separation requirement. Courts very very seldom grant any shorter period.
It is possible living separate in the same house, one would have to show for example a total separation of accounts, of payments for necessities, of conducting live. Since this is important and tricky, because it can affect the separation duration, if any party is contemplating living separate in the same place, they definitely need to consult an attorney first.
In Germany divorce is no-fault, so a new partner usually does not affect the proceedings.
综合以上 先分居一年！ 我从看一遍楼主的帖，看来你们的结婚是使馆办的，既然那里不办离婚，我觉得问问他们有没有存档，存档几年，如果没有，你们就把结婚证一撕，完了！不然双方在自行订个协议，以后男婚女嫁各不相干，签名盖手印各自收藏一份，再或登报公告一下，报纸收好。避免一方突然中彩票了，前任来讨钱！
以上我猜得！
结婚本来就是两个人的事，只有在一方想争取婚姻权益才比较复杂。如果没有，撕了应该就了结了！ 楼主, 我给你短信了,等你电话 这个我知道，找德国律师可以办理的。但费用很贵，你要申请赞助金，律师会给你表格的，你们只要花11，60欧就可以，否则要3000欧。和中国使馆没关系。 现在离婚的可真多，可以着德国律师办理，很简单的。费用3000欧，如果收入少的话，可申请赞助金，律师知道的。
请问在德国如何办理离婚手续~ZT
请问在德国如何办理离婚手续目前可以在领使馆办理的公证文件有：
婚姻状况公证（包括未达婚龄公证、未婚公证、未再婚公证和结婚公政)
委托书公证
声明书公证
生存或健在公证
退籍公证
发生在中国境内的法律事实和法律行为（如在国内出生、死亡、未婚、结婚、离婚、学历、
工作经历、无犯罪记录等）的公证书原则上应在国内的涉外公证机关办理。国内出具的公证
书如要在德国使用，须先 办理外交部领事司认证及德国驻华使、领馆认证。
最好还是先到领使馆问一下.
附
驻德使领馆地址及联系方式：
（1）中国驻德使馆领事部
电话： 030－48839723
传真： 030－48839731
地址： Konsularabteilung
der Botschaft der VR China
Märkisches Ufer 54,
10179， Berlin
（2） 中国驻德使馆波恩办事处
电话：0228－9559740
传真：0228－362350
地址： Außenstelle der Botschaft der VR China
Kurfürstenallee 12
53177, Bonn
（3） 驻汉堡总领馆
电话：040－82276018
传真：040－8226231
地址：Generalkonsulat der VR China
Elbchaussee 268
22605, Hamburg
（4） 驻慕尼黑总领馆
电话：089－17301618
传真：089－17301623
地址：Generalkonsulat der VR China
Romanstraße 107
80639, München 海外中国人办理离婚事宜，可分以下几种情形：
一、一方为华侨（指定居国外的中国公民），另一方为国内公民夫妻双方一方为华侨，另一方为国内公民，双方自愿离婚并已对子女抚养和财产处理达成协议的，须共同到国内（内地）一方户口所在地的县级以上人民政府婚姻登记机关申请离婚登记。
一方要求离婚、或双方自愿离婚但对子女抚养和财产处理未达成协议、或一方不能到婚姻登记机关申请离婚的，可直接向国内（内地）一方户口所在地的人民法院提起离婚诉讼。
二、双方均为华侨
夫妻双方均为华侨，要求在国内办理离婚的，无论是一方要求离婚还是双方自愿离婚，都必须向结婚登记地的人民法院申请办理离婚手续。当事人如因特殊情况不能回国时，可办理授权委托书，委托国内亲友或律师为代理人代为办理，并向人民法院提交书面意见。委托书和意见书均须经当地公证机关公证、我驻外使领馆认证。上述委托书和意见书也可由我驻外使领馆直接公证。
如果他们原在我驻外使领馆办理结婚登记，申请离婚时，双方又无争议的，可向原经办结婚登记的我驻外使领馆申请办理离婚手续；双方有争议的，则应向出国前最后户籍所在地或居所地的人民法院起诉。
三、一方为出国人员（在国外合法居留6个月以上未定居的中国公民），另一方为居住在国内的中国公民；一方为出国人员，另一方为居住在国内的中国公民，双方自愿离婚，并已对子女抚养、财产处理达成协议的，双方须共同到国内一方户籍所在地或出国人员出国前的户籍所在地的婚姻登记管理机关申请离婚登记。居住国内的中国公民须提供身份证和户口证明、所在单位或村（居）民委员会出具的介绍信、离婚协议书及结婚证；出国人员应提供护照、离婚协议书及结婚证。
当事人双方如有争议，可以向国内一方住所地人民法院起诉。
四、双方均为出国人员
双方均为出国人员，且在我驻外使领馆办理的结婚登记，现自愿离婚，并已对子女抚养、财产处理达成协议的，双方须共同到原结婚登记的我驻外使领馆申请离婚登记。居住国不承认外国使领馆办理的离婚登记并允许当事人在该国离婚的，可以在居住国办理离婚或回国内办理离婚。
双方有争议的，可以向出国前一方住所地人民法院提起诉讼。
五、一方为中国公民，另一方为外国人（包括外籍华人）
夫妻双方一方为中国公民，另一方为外国人，要求在中国境内办理离婚的，无论是双方自愿还是一方要求离婚，都必须向有管辖权的中级人民法院提起离婚诉讼。 中华人民共和国婚姻法（新）
第四章 离 婚
第三十一条 男女双方自愿离婚的，准予离婚。双方必须到婚姻登记机关申请离婚。婚姻登记机关查明双方确实是自愿并对子女和财产问题已有适当处理时，发给离婚证。
第三十二条 男女一方要求离婚的，可由有关部门进行调解或直接向人民法院提出离婚诉讼。
人民法院审理离婚案件，应当进行调解；如感情确已破裂，调解无效，应准予离婚。
有下列情形之一，调解无效的，应准予离婚：
（一）重婚或有配偶者与他人同居的；
（二）实施家庭暴力或虐待、遗弃家庭成员的；
（三）有赌博、吸毒等恶习屡教不改的；
（四）因感情不和分居满二年的；
（五）其他导致夫妻感情破裂的情形。
一方被宣告失踪，另一方提出离婚诉讼的，应准予离婚。
第三十三条 现役军人的配偶要求离婚，须得军人同意，但军人一方有重大过错的除外。
第三十四条 女方在怀孕期间、分娩后一年内或中止妊娠后六个月内，男方不得提出离婚。女方提出离婚的，或人民法院认为确有必要受理男方离婚请求的，不在此限。
第三十五条 离婚后，男女双方自愿恢复夫妻关系的，必须到婚姻登记机关进行复婚登记。
第三十九条 离婚时，夫妻的共同财产由双方协议处理；协议不成时，由人民法院根据财产的具体情况，照顾子女和女方权益的原则判决。
第四十四条 对遗弃家庭成员，受害人有权提出请求，居民委员会、村民委员会以及所在单位应当予以劝阻、调解。
第四十六条 有下列情形之一，导致离婚的，无过错方有权请求损害赔偿：
（一）重婚的；
（二）有配偶者与他人同居的；
（三）实施家庭暴力的；
（四）虐待、遗弃家庭成员的。 如果双方都在德国，可以通过德国法院办理离婚
如果是学生或低收入者，律师费和法庭费可以申请国家补助。（意味免费离婚）。
相关律师电话：0201-2208636 Herr Borgemeister
婚姻就像一个磨盘，需要磨磨！
咨询后，请慎重考虑。 柏林大使馆受理离婚，网页上有讲。
不过lz 三思，好不容易才结婚不能这么轻率的离啊。 退籍公证
是退中国籍吗?
现在中国大使馆给不给申请回到中国国籍呀??? 原帖由 娃娃妈 于 2006-1-21 18:26 发表
退籍公证
是退中国籍吗?
现在中国大使馆给不给申请回到中国国籍呀???
娃娃妈想回到中国国籍了? 是不是每年回国签证觉得麻烦了?可是你回到中国国籍, 德国国籍就没有了啊, 还得重新申请德国签证, 不是一样麻烦吗? 只是个备用方案
能进能退多好呀
以前听说只能出不能回
前一阵听说松动可恢复
也不知真假,哎
别到真想回去的时候人家拒之门外 原帖由 娃娃妈 于 2006-1-21 18:26 发表
退籍公证
是退中国籍吗?
现在中国大使馆给不给申请回到中国国籍呀???
可以！
如何申请恢复中国国籍
http://www.dolc.de/forum/viewthread.php?tid=244711&extra=page%3D13
为了让大家多了解一些法律常识，更好地维护自身合法权益，更好地在海外生活，这里我将推荐一些实用的法律常识，让大家借鉴。。。。。。
海外生活法律常识1。----如何申请恢复中国国籍
凡中国人的近亲属或定居在中国的或有其他正当理由的外国人和从未取得中国国籍的华裔可申请加入中国国籍。
凡曾经具有过中国国籍的外籍华人、华裔和无国籍华人可申请恢复中国国籍。
申请时须履行的手续：
①提交书面申请；
②提交外国护照和外国人居留证复印件；
③提交受理机关认为与申请国籍有关的其他材料；
④填写《加入中华人民共和国国籍申请表》或《恢复中华人民共和国国籍申请表》；
⑤交二寸正面半身免冠近照四张。申请人有随同入籍子女的，则交二寸正面免冠近照四张。
在国内市办理加入或恢复中国国籍申请的机关为市公安局出入境管理处。在国外为中国外交代表机关和领事机关。经批准加入或恢复中国国籍的将发给《中华人民共和国入籍证书》或《中华人民共和国复籍证书》。
审批依据：
《中华人民共和国国籍法》、中华人民共和国公安部关于印发《关于受理、审批国籍申请的程序和注意事项》的通知、公安部、外交部《关于中国公民非法持用外国护照有关问题的通知》。
办事流程：
一、国籍认定办事流程
1、缴验本人有关国籍证件；
2、提交本人有关国籍问题的书面说明及相应证明；
3、县、市公安局经审核符合《中华人民共和国国籍法》条件，承认其所属国籍，给予办理有关手续；
4、县、市公安局经审核不符合《中华人民共和国国籍法》条件，不承认其所持有关国家护照，并做相应处理。
二、国籍受理、审批办事流程
1、提交本人书面申请和有关证件及证明（申请加入或恢复中国国籍的提交外国护照和外国人居留证复印件；申请退出中国国籍的提交中华人民共和国身份证和中国护照复印件；申请人已与外国人结婚或在国外已获永久居留资格的，提交结婚证明或国外永久居留资格证明复印件）；
2、填写国籍申请书；
3、交本人两寸照片四张；
4、县、市公安局受理国籍申请后，对申请人的情况进行必要的调查、核实，然后提出处理意见，书面上报省、自治区公安厅；
5、省、自治区公安厅对市县公安局的书面报告进行复审，核实无误后，提出处理意见，写出复审请示后报公安部审批；
6、根据《中华人民共和国国籍法》第十六条规定，加入、退出、恢复中国国籍的申请，由中华人民共和国公安部审批，经审批机关批准，加入、恢复、退出中国国籍，分别发给（1）中华人民共和国入籍证书；（2）中华人民共和国复籍证书；（3）中华人民共和国出籍证书。由受理机关转交申请人；
7、申请人交纳国籍证书费用；
8、受理机关在转交入籍证书和复籍证书的同时，收缴申请人所持外国护照和外国人居留证；在转交出籍证书的同时，收缴申请人所持中华人民共和国居民身份证，有中国护照的也须同时收缴，并通知户籍部门注销其中国居民户口。
办理条件：
一、国籍认定对象：中国公民短期出境期间获取外国护照的中国公民。
1、提交本人有关国籍问题的书面说明；
2、出示护照所属国的入籍证书或入籍证明；
3、出示在护照所属国定居或至少巳连续居住两年的证明；
以上证书、证件、证明等均需出示原件。
二、国籍受理对象：加入中国国籍对象为纯外国籍人和从未取得中国国籍的华裔，恢复中国国籍对象为曾经具有过中国国籍的外籍华人、华裔和无国籍华人，退出中国国籍对象为中国公民。
1、申请加入或恢复中国国籍的提交外国护照和外国人居留证复印件；
2、申请退出中国国籍的提交中华人民共和国身份证和中国护照复印件，申请人巳与外国人结婚或在国外巳获永久居留资格的，提交结婚证明或国外永久居留资格证明复印件）；
3、中外混血儿童申请退出中国国籍需提交本人出生证明、父母结婚证明、父母双方身份证件和中国籍父（或母）的国外定居证明复印件；
4、被外国人领养的中国籍儿童申请退出中国籍，需提交领养公证书和养父母双方或一方身份证件复印件。
提交以上证件证明复印件的同时需缴验原件。
审批方式：
一、 国籍认定审批方式
1、县、市公安机关受理后，根据有关法规认定为外国籍的，原则上收缴其中国护照、证件，或切右上角并注销章（盖在护照号码上）后，将护照发还给本人；
2、对不具备丧失中国国籍条件的，在其外国护照上作不承认标记，将护照发还给本人。
二、国籍受理审批方式
1、县、市公安局受理国籍申请后，对申请人的情况进行必要的调查、核实，然后提出处理意见，书面上报省、自治区公安厅；
2、省、自治区公安厅对市县公安局的书面报告进行复审，核实无误后，提出处理意见，写出复审请示后报公安部审批；
3、根据《中华人民共和国国籍法》第十六条规定，加入、退出、恢复中国国籍的申请，由中华人民共和国公安部审批，经审批机关批准，加入、恢复、退出中国国籍，分别发给（1）中华人民共和国入籍证书；（2）中华人民共和国复籍证书；（3）中华人民共和国出籍证书。由受理机关转交申请人。 这么老的帖子也被顶起来了, 呵呵.到现在已经几个月了, LZ是不是已经离了? 《中华人民共和国复籍证书》
这个有点意外
为什么不是一个普通的身份证和护照?
谢谢(荤)水的鱼
现在开明呀,曾经我去问中国使馆,我儿子可以入中国籍吗
使馆工作人员看了我老公一眼
不懈地说:国籍跟爸!
我当时想,万一德国说跟妈,我这儿子还不就无国籍了呀! 原帖由 娃娃妈 于 2006-1-21 20:25 发表
《中华人民共和国复籍证书》
这个有点意外
为什么不是一个普通的身份证和护照?
谢谢(荤)水的鱼
现在开明呀,曾经我去问中国使馆,我儿子可以入中国籍吗
使馆工作人员看了我老公一眼
不懈地说:国籍跟爸!
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:lol::lol::lol: 问版主：如果两人在国内领的证，现两人均在德国，是否非要回国才能离婚？现在他不愿意回去，但这样拖着也不是办法。$惨啊$
就没有办法能在这里解决吗？谢谢！
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