原帖由 tau 于 2006-1-12 17:01 发表
有道理啊!!! 人工太贵那.早知道还不如在中国学点手艺活,比学啥mba 好啊
说得好。不过很多时候都是事在人为，我就是来的过后学会了贴墙纸，铺地板什莫的，省不少钱呢。
原帖由 shyshy 于 2006-1-29 18:48 发表
德国人很长命的。。。
:lol::lol::lol:
你说的真没错，她们这里的老太太，动不动就活过90～。
大家都来东德买房子吧!
东德人口稀少, 而且人口减少极其严重.
房子极其便宜!!!$不错$$不错$
原帖由 eden1023 于 2006-1-29 17:45 发表
我未婚夫也是在德国租的房子,德国房子肯定比国内贵很多了,我觉得和香港差不多.
我也有点不能接受,但是想想这是普遍的现象也就好点了.我未来的婆婆住了一个超大的花园游泳池的房子,是买下的,所以没房子也没关系,老 ...
搞清楚，你婆婆的房子是不是贷款买的？说不定到。。。，还还不完贷款呢？
有谁知道，在加州的花园洋房，150平米，有多贵？我老公说，等我下次生日时候，送我一个villa，我想不要在德国，我要去san diego买，到时候，把爸爸妈妈一起接去度假。
原帖由 kakalein 于 2006-1-29 22:58 发表
有谁知道，在加州的花园洋房，150平米，有多贵？我老公说，等我下次生日时候，送我一个villa，我想不要在德国，我要去san diego买，到时候，把爸爸妈妈一起接去度假。
这里都是些阔太太啊！
来错地方了 $错了$
原帖由 kakalein 于 2006-1-29 22:58 发表
有谁知道，在加州的花园洋房，150平米，有多贵？我老公说，等我下次生日时候，送我一个villa，我想不要在德国，我要去san diego买，到时候，把爸爸妈妈一起接去度假。
加州一个很一般的老房子都要四,五十万.我朋友在加洲买的house都近百万.而且150平米的什么样的房子, house还是apartment.如果是house, 一层楼还是2层楼的?想买新房还是旧房?150平米包不包括花园.不同情况价格差别很大.
原帖由 flyingpig 于 2006-1-29 23:30 发表
加州一个很一般的老房子都要四,五十万.我朋友在加洲买的house都近百万.而且150平米的什么样的房子, house还是apartment.如果是house, 一层楼还是2层楼的?想买新房还是旧房?150平米包不包括花园.不同 ...
当然是买house了，不过不用特别大，因为不是长期住在那，只是度假。
原帖由 kakalein 于 2006-1-29 23:35 发表
当然是买house了，不过不用特别大，因为不是长期住在那，只是度假。
150平米房子+小花园, 如果是一层楼, 算小房子, 如果是新房, 准备好100万, 如果是旧房, 准备好50-100万(和房龄有关).如果是两层楼新房, 算大房子, 准备好几百万, 如果是旧房, 也要100万以上.每年还要交几千的保险和几万的property tax.
在加州能养一house的一家人年薪总和一般要超过15万.
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原帖由 flyingpig 于 2006-1-29 23:38 发表
150平米房子+小花园, 如果是一层楼, 算小房子, 如果是新房, 准备好100万, 如果是旧房, 准备好50-100万(和房龄有关).如果是两层楼新房, 算大房子, 准备好几百万, 如果是旧房, 也要100万以上.每年还要交几千的 ...
你咋知道的这么清楚呢？:o:o年薪15万美元啊，大概12万欧，不过我不喜欢贷款，还是一次付清放心。
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原帖由 kakalein 于 2006-1-29 23:57 发表
你咋知道的这么清楚呢？:o:o
我在美国, 但不在加州.加州房价最近几年成倍增长.我好几个朋友两个人年薪加起来超过24万美元, 在加州买房还算半天.你看看下面这个吧.
Housing statistics
San Diego’s housing crisis – statistics and quotes
Increasing housing prices vs. incomes in San Diego:
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San Diego County’s high housing prices, coupled with its relatively low wages, make it the second least affordable area in the country. (National Association of Home Builders, 2005)
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The average new detached home in San Diego County sells for $861,265 – a 350 percent increase over 1996 ($245,884). (The Daily Transcript/MarketPointe Realty 10/21/05)
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Meanwhile, in the past six years, the median household income in San Diego increased only 21 percent for a family of four.(San Diego Union Tribune, 7/10/05)
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The median price for existing houses for October 2005 was $560,000 (as compared to a national median price of $225,000). The median price for resale condos for that period was $398,250. (San Diego Union-Tribune/DataQuick Information Systems, 11/12/05 and The Daily Transcript, 8/9/05)
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“To afford a median-priced home today in San Diego, a household would need an annual income of nearly $110,000…” . That assumes a 10 percent down payment and a 30-year fixed-rate financing at current prices.” (SDUT, 7/10/05)
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The San Diego Association of Governments estimates that 172,000 local employees, or 13 percent of the work force, earn less than $8.35 an hour.
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According to the Federal Bureau of Labor Statistics, in the past year, San Diego lost 15 percent of its manufacturing jobs (which are typically higher wage than retail and hospitality jobs).(SDBJ, 6/27/05)
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Examples of average wages not keeping up with housing prices (according to the National Housing Conference’s Center for Housing Policy): elementary school teacher, $48,840; police officer, $58,370; nurse $35,080; retail salesperson, $19,150; and janitor, $18,110. (San Diego Housing Federation weekly brief, 8/27/04)
Attitudes about Housing:
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According to a Public Policy Institute of California survey: “The cost of housing is one of the biggest issues on the minds of California residents. More residents (55 percent) see the lack of affordable housing as a bigger issue than population growth (35 percent), lack of well-paying jobs (35 percent), or air pollution (30 percent).” (The Daily Transcript, 6/1/05)
Housing Price Impacts on Employment:
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“’San Diego’s Housing Market is one of the most inflated in the country – a detrimental factor in terms of recruiting and retaining employees,’ said Kristine Norquist, Communications Manager for the San Diego Regional Chamber of Commerce.” (The Daily Transcript, 2/18/05)
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“Corporate relocation specialists say the area’s high costs are making it increasingly hard to find newcomers to replace the companies that are departing.” (SDUT, 6/12/05)
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“We’ve dropped out of the top 20 on Forbes Magazine’s ranking of the ‘Best Places for Business and Careers.’ ... The primary factors:cost of living (we’re sixth costliest out of 150) and cost of doing business (we’re third costliest out of 150).” (Tom Blair, i on San Diego/San Diego Magazine July 2005)
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In San Diego, 29 percent of residents are considering moving out of the state because of high housing prices, according to the Public Policy Institute of California. (SDUT, 11/18/04)
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“For the first time in nearly a decade, more people moved out of San Diego County last year than moved here from other U.S. locales – and economists say the trend could continue as local workers find it harder to cope with stagnant salaries, a high cost of living and skyrocketing home prices.” (SDUT, 6/12/05)
Condo conversions:
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“Condo conversions are one of the hottest topics in real estate right now, with supporters touting them as a ready source of affordable housing and critics warning that they are reducing the supply of rental units for low-income families in the San Diego market.”(SDBJ, 7/18/05)
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“Converted units may be an affordable alternative for many, but the price hasn’t exactly been standing still. In fact, the price in that segment has climbed by 42 percent during the past 24 months.Condominium conversions account for about 51 percent of the new attached market.” (The Daily Transcript/MarketPointe Realty Advisors, 4/21/05)
Apartment shortages and rents in San Diego:
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The average apartment rent in San Diego is $1,236 – a nearly 100 percent increase from 1990, when average rents were $643 (The Daily Transcript/Associated Press 7/21/05)
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“Nearly all the apartment units being constructed are in the luxury category…In fact, units built since 1998 are averaging $1,581 per month, compared to $1,091 units built prior to 1998, reflecting a 45 percent premium for newer units.” (The Daily Transcript /MarketPoint Realty Advisors 3/28/05)
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Rental vacancies in San Diego have fluctuated between less than one and four percent from 1997-2005. The region’s vacancy rate is currently 3.9 percent. (San Diego County Apartment Association Spring 2005 Vacancy and Rental Rate Survey)
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The national apartment vacancy rate is currently at nine percent. (The Daily Transcript, 8/25/05)
Housing policy and trends
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“Inclusionary zoning has surfaced as one policy solution to rising housing costs in big cities…San Diego is a “trail-blazing example that other urban centers can follow.” (American Planners Association, Zoning Practice, October 2004)
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“The region has effectively made a big investment in ‘low-value-added jobs’ through its support of tourism and now faces problems with a populace increasingly unable to afford housing in the area,” said Marney Cox, lead economist for the San Diego Association of Governments. (SDUT, 8/30/05)
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Imperial Valley:“Developments are exploding all over the Imperial Valley, and homebuyers and developers of all kinds don’t seem to mind the heat…’It’s the only affordable market left for Southern California,’ said John Trotter of Capstone Advisors. ‘People are moving east to buy homes in Imperial County, and it’s going to continue to grow because of affordable housing,’ said Mitch Mitchell of the San Diego Chamber of Commerce. The average price of a new single-family detached home…in Imperial Valley is $293,707.”(The Daily Transcript, 5/23/05)
Updated December 1, 2005
原帖由 kakalein 于 2006-1-29 23:57 发表
你咋知道的这么清楚呢？:o:o年薪15万美元啊，大概12万欧，不过我不喜欢贷款，还是一次付清放心。
如果你LG有几百万资产, 那是没问题.好奇问一下, 你家是做什么的, 这么有钱.房子也能当生日礼物.
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原帖由 flyingpig 于 2006-1-30 00:03 发表
我在美国, 但不在加州.加州房价最近几年成倍增长.我好几个朋友两个人年薪加起来超过24万美元, 在加州买房还算半天.你看看下面这个吧.
Housing statisticsSan Diego’s housing crisis – ...
怎么德国的人口, 特别是东德急剧下降呢?房子到处空着!
而美国经济这么好呢?
原帖由 芙蓉小姐 于 2006-1-30 00:10 发表
怎么德国的人口, 特别是东德急剧下降呢?房子到处空着!
而美国经济这么好呢?
真人兽！！！
都是有钱银啊～