芭月凉
发表于 2006-1-19 20:41
原帖由 flyingpig 于 2006-1-19 20:24 发表
她已经违反很多次了, 总是对网友进行人身攻击.:lol:
都是你们对张小姐进行人身攻击在先!我只是对于你们遗漏的进行正当添补!
flyingpig
发表于 2006-1-19 20:41
原帖由 2liang 于 2006-1-19 20:38 发表
不要不懂装懂了:艺妓不是妓女!
日本艺妓产生于17世纪的东京和大阪。最初的艺妓全部是男性,他们在妓院和娱乐场所 ...
这个我太懂了, 调研了好一阵.电影和小说里的艺妓是妓女.下面是小说作者回答的.如果你不懂英文, 我再给你翻译.
Q: Here's a question you've undoubtedly heard before: Are geisha prostitutes?
A: As a matter of fact, all through the years I worked on this novel, that was the first question people asked me. The answer isn't a simple yes or no. The so-called "hot springs geisha," who often entertain at resorts, are certainly prostitutes. But as Sayuri says in the novel, you have to look at how well they play the shamisen, and how much they know about tea ceremony, before you determine whether they ought properly to call themselves geisha. However, even in the geisha districts of Kyoto and Tokyo and other large cities, a certain amount of prostitution does exist. For example, all apprentice geisha go through something they call mizuage, which we might call, "deflowering." It amounts to the sale of their virginity to the highest bidder. Back in the '30s and '40s, girls went through it as young as thirteen or fourteen--certainly no later than eighteen. It's misleading not to call this prostitution, even child prostitution. So we can't say that geisha aren't prostitutes. On the other hand, after her mizuage, a first-class geisha won't make herself available to men on a nightly basis. She'll be a failure as a geisha, though, if she doesn't have a man who acts as her patron and pays her expenses. He'll keep her in an elegant style, and in exchange she'll make herself sexually available to him exclusively. Is this prostitution? Not in the exact sense we mean it in the West, where prostitutes turn "tricks" with "johns," and so on. To my mind, a first-class geisha is more analogous to a kept mistress in our culture than to a prostitute.
2liang
发表于 2006-1-19 20:42
原帖由 flyingpig 于 2006-1-19 20:34 发表
这属于战争, 广岛, 长崎已经把以前的给板回来了, 还把日本弄得服服贴贴, 所以要恨的话, 应该日本恨美国才对, 两棵原子弹就把他们打投降了.呵呵.中国呢?到现在日本还很强硬, 坚持侵略战争是对的.
我再晕。。。板回来了就算了?就不算侵略过了?打赢了就应该不狠了?只能打输了的才狠?中国也好歹算战胜国,照你的道理我们也不能狠啊?!
到现在美国还在纪念珍珠港被炸的那天。。。
flyingpig
发表于 2006-1-19 20:42
原帖由 芭月凉 于 2006-1-19 20:41 发表
都是你们对张小姐进行人身攻击在先!我只是对于你们遗漏的进行正当添补!
版规是可以攻击演员, 但不能攻击网友. :lol::lol:
2liang
发表于 2006-1-19 20:43
原帖由 flyingpig 于 2006-1-19 20:41 发表
这个我太懂了, 调研了好一阵.电影和小说里的艺妓是妓女.下面是小说作者回答的.如果你不懂英文, 我再给你翻译.
Q: Here's a question you've undoubtedly heard before: Are geisha prostitutes?
A: ...
我不懂英文,请给我翻译~
flyingpig
发表于 2006-1-19 20:43
原帖由 2liang 于 2006-1-19 20:42 发表
我再晕。。。板回来了就算了?就不算侵略过了?打赢了就应该不狠了?只能打输了的才狠?中国也好歹算战胜国,照你的道理我们也不能狠啊?!
到现在美国还在纪念珍珠港被炸的那天。。。
和中国的相比, 这根本不算什么, 没看到美国早就有情报, 知道他们要攻击吗?特意让日本攻击, 找个理由反击的.拜托先去看看历史再回.
2liang
发表于 2006-1-19 20:45
原帖由 jolincai 于 2006-1-19 20:40 发表
真不知道这位gg为什么为了章小姐一再地用尖利的词句对待网友..........你真的是男生吗?
我没有为了她,我是就是论事,如果把章换成巩俐或者杨,我也会这么说的。。。
这跟男女有什么关系?
芭月凉
发表于 2006-1-19 20:46
原帖由 flyingpig 于 2006-1-19 20:42 发表
版规是可以攻击演员, 但不能攻击网友. :lol::lol:
感觉你笑的好奸诈啊!$汗水$$怕怕$
flyingpig
发表于 2006-1-19 20:47
原帖由 2liang 于 2006-1-19 20:43 发表
我不懂英文,请给我翻译~
简而言之, 作者说, geisha不能不算做妓女因为小geisha出道前都要被高价拍卖贞操一次.出道后, 高级geisha不象妓女一样随便接客, 但都被有钱的客人包养.所以相对妓女来说, 高级geisha更象情妇.
2liang
发表于 2006-1-19 20:48
原帖由 flyingpig 于 2006-1-19 20:42 发表
版规是可以攻击演员, 但不能攻击网友. :lol::lol:
版规哪里写可以攻击演员了?那你觉的攻击演员没错了?演员就不是人了?
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