Debian, Suse or JDS

xiaobailong

哪种比较好？ 有经验的大虾讲讲感受好不好嘛？

xiaobailong

去网上搜了搜，IDC说Debian的装机数和增长率都比suse多。 不知道这其中knoppix算了没有 ：-）

gaga

这些distro都差不多吧，不都是kernel加上一堆gnu软件，自己配置一个好了
记得装的最多的应该是mandrake？

xiaobailong

另一篇文章讲为什么从Debian转到Suse:

Debian vs. SuSE
Installation and default setup
No need to talk about that. Debian's current stable version puts a system on your harddisk that boots, period. If anything, it configures your network, but only if it is not USB or WLAN based. It does not care about X11 (graphical user interface), mouse, RAID, volume management, Firewire, Bluetooth, DSL, power management (ACPI/APM), CD and DVD burners, TV/DVB cards, sound cards and whatever other stuff you might have plugged into your computer. All of that stuff needs to be installed and configured manually with Debian, comparable to Windows (although Windows at least produces a GUI for the installation).

The default SuSE installation is desktop oriented: KDE desktop with SuSE specific welcome and support icons, OpenOffice, RealPlayer 10, Macromedia Flash plugins, audio and video players, CD/DVD burning, and not much more. The whole system is about 1.5GB including all applications. (There is the option of installing a "minimal" system which would only be about 400MB, without GUI.) The default KDE menu is clean with few but relevant choices of software, not cluttered with hundreds of applications, like the default Debian desktop was (but this might have changed).

For me, using SuSE meant that I did not have to compile my own kernel because SuSE already contains the half dozen patches that I needed for regular use, e.g. ReiserFS updates. It meant that I did not have to compile my own KDE because SuSE provides updated KDE packages for all of their distributions. It meant that I did not have to manually configure my system to automatically recognize and display USB and/or Firewire harddisks when I plugged them in, or manually compile and configure ALSA to work with my soundcard. That saved me quite a bit of work, but also fun - fun tinkering for which I do not have the time any more..

http://www.jensbenecke.de/l-debian-suse.php

xiaobailong

Originally posted by gaga at 2005-5-12 22:40
这些distro都差不多吧，不都是kernel加上一堆gnu软件，自己配置一个好了
记得装的最多的应该是mandrake？

老兄啊， 自己配制一个，倒吸一口冷气！  偶是初级玩家，不是高手，只会装default的东东，不会自己配制的呀？除非有别人写好的详细步骤。。。。

xiaobailong

mandrake也不是装的最多的八? IDC没提。是不是Debian和mandrake是linux爱好者的选择，而企业很少用的？ 不知道应用程序多不多？

好像各个linux distribution之间还是有很多不同，所以应用程序有时候也不兼容的？

xiaobailong

居然找到一篇文章介绍怎样把 JDS 从 Suse 转到 Debian上去的。 差点晕倒！而且还说，JDS以后有可能正式转到Debian去。 :-)

http://supportforum.sun.com/sjds ... goto=4517&rid=0

Actually, JDS doesn't have any customizations to SuSE. Technically, the underpinnings are SLES built to Sun's specs. Sun then took Gnome 2.2 and added 2.4 components. So the vfolders configure as 2.2 but the Nautilus browser is 2.4 as is the panel, etc.

If it was a pure SuSE distribution then you'd see all kinds of kernel hooks to KDE. They aren't there.

I pulled the gnome theme engine and put it on 2.4 and 2.6 of other distributions. I then added MS fonts from this site:

http://avi.alkalay.net/software/msfonts/

If you can grab the remaining font sets, you can get close to the look and feel. You'll also need the icons.

The desktop is highly customized and even has admin hooks to JDS Control Station 2.1. Without those, an admin can tell that you aren't using JDS.

You might want to take a look at our community site: http://jdshelp.org and see if the RPMS we built will help you.

Additionally, we have a howto that lets you install apt-get and pull packages from a University ftp site that builds packages.

http://www.jdshelp.org/howtos/extras/apt-get.php


One other thing that might have you wait: JDS 3 for Linux will be delayed because of SuSE. Don't be surprised if the next JDS 3 for Linux winds up on top of Debian. Don't quote me on that because I have nothing more than a rumor to go by. But, it's a rumor with some substance to it and I didn't make it up.

xiaobailong

偶现在彻底晕了， 看意思， 似乎不管底层是Suse还是Debian, 只要上面有JDS就好。。。


对了，这个坛子里不是有人刚刚从RedHat转到Debian上的嘛？ 讲讲为什么转好不好？还有转换过程顺不顺利？转换之后感想如何？

gaga

一般是库依赖问题，不应该算做兼容性问题
我记得mandrake在桌面linux里一直是领跑的，易用性做的比较好
个人推荐如果玩的话还是slackware比较好，比较干净，也没有gentoo那么麻烦

xiaobailong

本来只打算在Suse和JDS里面选一个的，后来有人说Debian好，我才开了这个贴子。三个已经把我弄得晕头转向了，现在可好，您老兄又加了三个给我，有六个了：

Debian, Suse, JDS, Mandrake, Slackware, Gentoo

偶不是更加没有方向了么？  现在晕死。