北大清华在世界上的真实地位 不能没有危机感

50euro

原帖由 Maulwurf_352 于 2008-12-15 20:40 发表
大家别理那个粪青
他有种别在德国受气，去美国牛校啊，就怕他去不了呵呵

说得我都不想考了，德国那么差啊！！！我以前都不知道，还觉得挺不错的。现在说起来根美国的“没法比”？？？？？天啊！那在德国就是能读上海德堡大学也没用啦！！！！！$m9$

[ 本帖最后由 50euro 于 2008-12-15 20:47 编辑 ]

cherrycheese

那Y以后小孩挺郁闷的，从小学到博士，估计都要按照排名来。

UCer

唉，随便说两句都被叫上愤青...

UCer

原帖由 vdc 于 2008-12-15 20:23 发表
德国的所谓精英大学跟美国比？不必了吧。不是一个档次。美国每年大学排名受到学生，企业界，科研机构甚至政界的广泛关注。MIT的录取通知书上面写着“被MIT录取，那是一份荣耀”，长春藤大学联盟的毕业生协会势力就像 ...

大哥,你不用分析那么深入好瓦.
又是潜在的口水仗帖. 肯定又有人叫酸葡萄了.

vdc

原帖由 UCer 于 2008-12-15 21:18 发表

大哥,你不用分析那么深入好瓦.
又是潜在的口水仗帖. 肯定又有人叫酸葡萄了.

不拿数据说话只会骂人那不是本事，比他们会骂的见得多了。其实也后悔了，不该说的那么不给人家面子，好歹也是血气方刚的半大小子，留个学不易，该体谅人家。
触及了某些自我感觉良好的人的痛处，让他们跳出来狂喷暴露了自己的弱点，那就到此为止。
不说事实，开始攻击别人了，那就撤了吧，让他们继续$汗$


最后送一个英国times的2008年世界大学排名

http://www.topuniversities.com/u ... p_100_universities/

Top 100 Universities

1  HARVARD University United States
2  YALE University United States
3  University of CAMBRIDGE United Kingdom
4  University of OXFORD United Kingdom
5  CALIFORNIA Institute of Technology (Calt... United States
6  IMPERIAL College London United Kingdom
7  UCL (University College London) United Kingdom
8  University of CHICAGO United States
9  MASSACHUSETTS Institute of Technology (M... United States
10  COLUMBIA University United States
11  University of PENNSYLVANIA United States
12  PRINCETON University United States
13=  DUKE University United States
13=  JOHNS HOPKINS University United States
15  CORNELL University United States
16  AUSTRALIAN National University Australia
17  STANFORD University United States
18  University of MICHIGAN United States
19  University of TOKYO Japan
20  MCGILL University Canada
21  CARNEGIE MELLON University United States
22  KING'S College London United Kingdom
23  University of EDINBURGH United Kingdom
24  ETH Zurich (Swiss Federal Institute of T... Switzerland
25  KYOTO University Japan
26  University of HONG KONG Hong Kong
27  BROWN University United States
28  École Normale Supérieure, PARIS France
29  University of MANCHESTER United Kingdom
30=  National University of SINGAPORE(NUS) Singapore
30=  University of CALIFORNIA, Los Angeles (U... United States
32  University of BRISTOL United Kingdom
33  NORTHWESTERN University United States
34=  ÉCOLE POLYTECHNIQUE France
34=  University of BRITISH COLUMBIA Canada
36  University of California, BERKELEY United States
37  The University of SYDNEY Australia
38  The University of MELBOURNE Australia
39  HONG KONG University of Science & Techno... Hong Kong
40  NEW YORK University (NYU) United States
41  University of TORONTO Canada
42  The CHINESE University of Hong Kong Hong Kong
43  University of QUEENSLAND Australia
44  OSAKA University Japan
45  University of NEW SOUTH WALES Australia
46  BOSTON University United States
47  MONASH University Australia
48  University of COPENHAGEN Denmark
49  TRINITY College Dublin Ireland
50=  Ecole Polytechnique Fédérale de LAUSANNE... Switzerland
50=  PEKING University China
50=  SEOUL National University Korea, South
53  University of AMSTERDAM Netherlands
54  DARTMOUTH College United States
55  University of WISCONSIN-Madison United States
56  TSINGHUA University China
57  HEIDELBERG Universität Germany
58  University of CALIFORNIA, San Diego United States
59  University of WASHINGTON United States
60  WASHINGTON University in St. Louis United States
61  TOKYO Institute of Technology Japan
62  EMORY University United States
63  UPPSALA University Sweden
64  LEIDEN University Netherlands
65  The University of AUCKLAND New Zealand
66  LONDON School of Economics and Political... United Kingdom
67  UTRECHT University Netherlands
68  University of GENEVA Switzerland
69  University of WARWICK United Kingdom
70  University of TEXAS at Austin United States
71  University of ILLINOIS United States
72  Katholieke Universiteit LEUVEN  Belgium
73  University of GLASGOW United Kingdom
74  University of ALBERTA Canada
75  University of BIRMINGHAM United Kingdom
76  University of SHEFFIELD United Kingdom
77  NANYANG Technological University Singapore
78=  DELFT University of Technology Netherlands
78=  RICE University United States
78=  Technische Universität MÜNCHEN Germany
81=  University of AARHUS Denmark
81=  University of YORK United Kingdom
83=  GEORGIA Institute of Technology United States
83=  The University of WESTERN AUSTRALIA Australia
83=  University of ST ANDREWS United Kingdom
86  University of NOTTINGHAM United Kingdom
87  University of MINNESOTA United States
88  LUND University Sweden
89  University of CALIFORNIA, Davis United States
90  CASE WESTERN RESERVE University United States
91=  Université de Montréal Canada
91=  University of HELSINKI Finland
93=  Hebrew University of JERUSALEM Israel
93=  Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München Germany
95  KAIST - Korea Advanced Institute of Scie... Korea, South
96  University of VIRGINIA United States
97  University of PITTSBURGH United States
98  University of CALIFORNIA, Santa Barbara United States
99=  PURDUE University United States
99=  University of SOUTHAMPTON United Kingdom

[ 本帖最后由 vdc 于 2008-12-15 23:45 编辑 ]

cherrycheese

thanks to the Lz, I have never seen so many ranking.

Anyway, I don't think you are a Ph.d, are you? no offence:)

山区人民爱照相

就说工程学科这块
一个新加坡国立干掉了欧洲idea league五校中的四个，一个香港科大干掉德国全部tu。这俩弹丸之地有什么工业基础，脱离工业应用工程学科能做啥？
不是我看不明白，是这排名太疯狂

山区人民爱照相

原帖由 orionsnow 于 2008-12-15 14:29 发表



usa, GB, japan(in some field, e.g. medicine quality control), could also be franch.

but i donta believe franch is better than de

franch是啥，in some fields
英语出错不难，难的是每次写英语都会出错，没有哪次不出错。老人家您写报告也这样？

UCer

原帖由 vdc 于 2008-12-15 23:26 发表


不拿数据说话只会骂人那不是本事，比他们会骂的见得多了。其实也后悔了，不该说的那么不给人家面子，好歹也是血气方刚的半大小子，留个学不易，该体谅人家。
触及了某些自我感觉良好的人的痛处，让他们跳出来狂 ...

嫩还真介意啊，这个版上很多人都是读博的，大部分人都有正确的认识。
偶本来一直对这种排名不屑，不过看到很多人想法还真单纯，就忍不住说两句。
不用来什么酸不酸，去不去的了之类的这些无聊空话，大学水平不是一小部分人瞎喊就能改变的。
比精英大学，想怎么比？
不用说别的，美国常春藤加若干其它牛校，划拉个20所，任何挑出来一所，德国哪个高校能跟人家一个档次？ 这还都挑了20所了，按理精英大学数目比这个还小。
不用扯别的， 说人家大学牛不牛管你P事之类，确实不管普通学生啥事，不过事实毕竟是事实。
还有vdc说海德堡被比为德国john hopkins,偶在海德堡读博那会儿，还说是德国的哈佛呢，更是汗颜。

cherrycheese

When I was young, I'd like to see these ranking stuff, dreaming which one I can  go in the future.

When I became a Ph.d, I realized that all these rankings are holy shit, even worse for us ph.d. I was just focusing on the boss, his/her moral quality, paper published, research interests.