muerustc
发表于 2014-11-20 10:00
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krap 发表于 2014-11-18 14:13
我不明白的是,你们既然明年要去新的幼儿园了,为什么还在老的适应呢?还是还没有定下来?
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Because nobody can help us on December. So we hope that he can get used to the fact that he needs to go to school to play with others, and also learn some German.
Maybe I'm expecting too much. He had been to 2 different daycare centers before and we know what a good teacher can do with good organization. Especially his first teacher in the previous school, she was a magic. I gradually realize that here people take time to let the child get into it slowly. But it really took him only a minute to like and trust that teacher, less than an hour to be comfortable with the classroom and less than one day to like that school. He moved to the next age group in June, and until now he still talks about her.
krap
发表于 2014-11-20 10:09
muerustc 发表于 2014-11-20 10:00
Because nobody can help us on December. So we hope that he can get used to the fact that he needs...
恩。。愿望是很好的,不过现实可能不一定会那么顺利。
楼主家宝宝才两岁半,频繁的换幼儿园,也要看宝宝性格是不是那么容易接受新环境。
12月有至少3分之一是假期,也就是说就20天的时间,我觉得语言学习是一个长期的过程,20多天真不能期望太多。
根据我家两次适应的经验,就算适应了一个幼儿园,到晚上可以4点接他也有一个漫长的过程,是一天一天一周一周把时间拖长的。。
不知道米国幼儿园是不是这样适应,难不成过去把孩子放下父母就可以走了吗?!{:5_331:}
muerustc
发表于 2014-11-20 10:36
krap 发表于 2014-11-20 10:09
恩。。愿望是很好的,不过现实可能不一定会那么顺利。
楼主家宝宝才两岁半,频繁的换幼儿园,也要看宝宝 ...
our experience last year. I really miss the 2nd school. And my son too.
我家一岁半的小狼最近转学了。他看起来特别喜欢新的 daycare, 搞得我和LG每天都琢磨,倒底这个新“学校”有啥魔力。
其实我们对前一家也没什么不满的,也是参观了很多之后名列第二的候选,因为第一候选要排很长的队,狼从6周起就被我们送去了这家。后来上到11个月,我妈帮忙看了半年,然后9月份又重新回去从婴儿班升到了toddler班。在toddler班的第一天哭了大概十分钟,过了两三天之后就每天很开心地跑来跑去了,吃饭也不错,只是每天下午去接的时候就挂在我身上不肯下来。刚刚在这玩熟了就接到了第一候选的通知说有位置了(排了两年),犹豫了半天之后决定还是去看看吧。所以在第一家这次实际上也就呆了三星期,然后就转了。我们做好了准备他要再哭闹几天的。果然第一天放下他离开的时候哭得很伤心,但是下午去接的时候他无比的平静呀,看见我们就笑笑地跑过来,没有哭闹也没有挂在我身上,就伸出手来让我们牵着他走,还居然跟每个人说了“bye”——这个词他从前不会说的。把我们激动坏了。过了一星期,再送他去的时候他也都不哭了,连作势要哭的样子都没有,可以很平静地看着我们离开。
绝对没有说第一家不好的意思,毕竟他在那里挺开心的,老师也都很耐心。要比较的话这两家还是很不同的。想来想去觉得最重要的可能还是师生比。如果一个1:6的和一个1:3的,那个1:6的老师可想而知有多忙,再有好点子都可能没时间忙过来;而1:3的那个,老师就更加从容些,至少更有可能来考虑怎么教育小孩。当然,前提是老师关心孩子,否则再好的师生比都没用。
第一家的curriculum是每个月换一次的,至于每个月有什么不同我也不清楚,其实也大同小异吧,主要是读书唱歌做游戏数数写名字涂鸦之类的,出去活动都是在他们自己的play ground;第二家是每个星期制定下星期的计划,然后星期五的时候会通知家长下星期都要干什么。比如这个星期都是关于秋天的,做叶脉印啦,数南瓜切南瓜玩种子啦,做苹果酱啦之类的,每天出去玩,每星期去一次外面的公园,天气好还会去博物馆或者到外面野餐。相比之下我觉得第二家的计划做得更用心。
说说学历资质吧。一开始我觉得这些都是扯淡,你如果对小孩很不耐烦,就算有硕士学历又如何呢?所以当我们接受了第二家的offer, 正式开始之前要我们去跟director见面介绍学校,又要跟老师见面谈小孩的种种细节,我真觉得有点过分官僚了。特别是当director说,他们所有的老师和助理老师都至少是早期教育学士学历的时候,我有点反感。但是当我们终于见到了他的新老师,才发现经过专业培训的确实很不一样。当然,再重复一遍,前提是老师要爱孩子。也许学教育的和我们不一样,我面对这一个小淘气都有点上气不接下气了,但是对于专门研究儿童的来说,toddler一定是个很有趣很丰富的年龄段吧?
旧学校给我的感觉是,你把孩子放在那,他们尽量保证安全,到点了给换尿布或者带去potty, 给饭吃,帮忙睡午觉,有空的时间一起玩玩,让家长在工作的时候不用担心自己的孩子。再多的就不能强求了。
新学校的似乎有点学院气,说不好听的是他们拿孩子做实验来验证他们的教育方法和理念。比如老师教孩子吃饭的方法是,坐下来一起吃,然后孩子就都跟着学,我亲眼看见几个不到两岁的小孩,吃完之后把碗放到收碗的盆里,连我家狼也知道了把香蕉皮剥下来放在一个特定的专门放香蕉皮的碗里;帮助语言发展的办法是,如果小孩去拿一个球,老师就会告诉他"You took a ball." 如果老师打算去拿一个球,就会告诉小孩"I'm going to take a ball." 这样一个劲地重复。不知道是不是巧合,狼这一个多星期学会了好几个词呢,眼看英文词汇量就要赶上中文了,让我倍感压力呀!
muerustc
发表于 2014-11-20 10:40
in US you can choose how to start and people always debate what is the best way. For the previous one, we took a family picture to the teacher, then we stayed about one hour with him to let him get used to the surroundings, and then I left for the whole day.
krap
发表于 2014-11-20 11:44
muerustc 发表于 2014-11-20 10:40
in US you can choose how to start and people always debate what is the best way. For the previous on ...
可能你认为这个是好,父母花最少的精力达到把孩子托管的目的。。可是这里的人不这么想,这里的想法是怎样让孩子以最自然的方式的过度,最不会给孩子压力的方式。。。这里也有3天就可以托管的,不过不是家长选择这个模式,而是孩子选择的。。从孩子的表现决定到底怎样的方式,适应期的长短。。
anyway。。有一点,楼主可能不必期望了,这里的老师都不可能是硕士学士毕业的,大多数都是做Ausbildung,就是职业培训。我也有认识的读教育学Studium毕业然后当幼师的,不过这个真的很少见了。而且我也不认为这样就一定带的更好。。
你说的在第二个day care养成的好习惯,我们宝儿的幼儿园也是这样的,我很惊讶他在幼儿园吃好饭把盘子,杯子,围兜什么的放到该放的地方才离开,而在家里完全不这样,所以去幼儿园基本上都会养成比较好的习惯的。还有语言,重复句子或者多和孩子对话这里也是一样。
你说的第一个day care我个人觉得是孩子那个时候太小,没有安全感的原因,在那个时期可能去哪个幼儿园都是这个效果。在德国6周就可以去的幼儿园,东边可能还有,西边我没有听说过。。6个月是我听说过最早的。
muerustc
发表于 2014-11-20 12:29
I agree that it might take time for a child to get used to a day care, and I don't want to judge which way is good or bad. And it depends on the children as well. We dropped him for the full day from the beginning, not because we had to work, but we believe for him it was the easiest transition and it worked out fine.
But his current one does not give any option. Seems to me that the teacher tells us a random schedule only according to her convenience, and the instruction from different teachers are quite conflict. We've been visiting many recently and found out that there really are difference, in many aspects. I'm happy to see that there are good ones.
About his 2 previous schools, that post was written last year, one week after he transferred to a new one. He stayed there for one year before we moved here and it was totally positive. I really do not expect the same. As someone questioned, how much did you pay there, and how much do you pay here?
muerustc
发表于 2014-12-9 13:54
再次更新:今天,他开始了新的学校,很开心。Grandma was there with him in principle, but he basically ignored her, so she just wondered around to visit all the classrooms. He had stayed for about 3 hours, and didn't want to leave when we went to pick him up. He told me that the teacher was cool and stronger than his father. The teacher thinks that he would be able to join the class for a field trip tomorrow. I feel that he would have no problem accepting this school at all. Cross fingers.
抱抱枕头
发表于 2014-12-9 16:34
借这个帖子问一下 如果对这个kita不满意 因为一般都是提前一个月取消合同 那之后是不是还要付一个月的钱即使不去?
muerustc
发表于 2015-2-18 16:32
yeah we paid for the extra months also he didn't go there.
utopia2014
发表于 2016-4-5 16:26
kiwi1611 发表于 2014-11-3 17:15
自己现在还没有孩子,但是看到LZ这个叙述
唯一的感觉,德国和美国的差距,不是一点半点的,
认识个德国女 ...
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